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I want my oscar page: 1 2 3 | ||
| I think its about time we add a 6 player map as map of the week I tired of same old maps showing up at motw, while my breakthrew 6 player maps get left behind. sofar some reviews others gave Event Horizon - peoples favourate Kings Reign - most outstanding 6 player map White Dwarf - Best 6plr Ice map K-Reactor - Unique Design, This gets sexy thumbs up Allied forces - Gameplay and Design for 8 plr map Dune 2000 - Great Design for 6 player map Like Al pacino I want my oscar already, the Academy passed up movie after movie for Godfather, Scarface, A dogs Day Afternoon, He sould of got that Oscar in one those movie. Istead he got it for crappy movie Scent of a woman, cause Academy was forced to give him cause they fucked up from start. Think any map should get an equal chance. other sites add 5-6-8- maps to map of the month, why not this site get out of dark ages and get with the future.  modified by King of 8 plr Maps | ||
| 2006, 05, 19 20:43 | ||
| If somebody makes an outstanding 5+ player map, then by all means, it shall become MOTW. But so far, very few have demonstrated such a thing. | ||
| 2006, 05, 19 21:08 | ||
| They're interesting, but there aren't a lot of new and interesting thing you can do with 6 player maps, and I think that MotW has to get more experimental to get noticed. | ||
| 2006, 05, 19 22:44 | ||
| The more reason to add one GRC-DeathLink's 6)Eon Blue Apocalypse should've at least get a chance to be considered, motw submitters never even think of adding 6 player map, how unfair, to me and others. Ive made this site even more better, by submitting good alternative maps that no other site has, good quality 6-8 player maps. MOTW not a compeeting for only 4 and 2 player maps that are interesting, but in whole best of a type of map with something unique, best of 4 player map, best of 8 player maps and so on. Almost all my maps got something unique to them that doesnt rip off hunters or Lost Temple for 6, like rest of other map makers are doing. My maps people start by saying Wow then end it in great map, people want these type maps. Another site I host my maps, its gets like 1000 downloads for each map. modified by king of 8 plr maps | ||
| 2006, 05, 19 22:49 | ||
| A 6 player map already 1 step advanced then the 4 player one, try making one, Im the cutting edge and trend maker for 6-8 I made & broke the mold of a balanced 6-8plr map, im in lead of map design I think for this reason. I can make a 2-4 player map but best of map makers here cant even make a good 8 player map, so who got learning to do me or them, Im years ahead I think. Most these maps I uploaded here are old maps I made back in 2000 and up, mabe new to this site, but Ive been hard at work with them back with old map makers, where maps whernt good symmitry and as balanced. I only updated them with deco and mineral formations. Only few, Dune 2000 and k-reactor I made it this year modified by King of 8 plr Maps | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 00:29 | ||
| I like dune that map is awesome | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 02:11 | ||
| the effort it takes to make a good 5 player map would most likely have made a much better 4 player... and 6? forget about it. not at 128x128. and bigger than that no one wants to play. for 1v1 128x128 is actually too big, but you need 128x128 for the spacing so things are at the proper angles and whatnot. and sorry, 2v2 is pretty much "for fun" in broodwar. we don't even know what a good map is for 2v2, or what is balanced in it, because we really don't care. maybe koreans know, but we aren't paying much attention... it just doesn't matter much. and their 2v2 maps are way better than yours, "king." | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 04:47 | ||
| whats the point to compairing 4 player maps to 2 player maps to 6 player maps, their all differant. the topic is shouldn't a map of the week not only be 2-4 player map, but include 5-8 players as well, so as not to be bias agains other good map makers who make differant maps of same quality be included. I didnt ask which maps you like better 2-4 player maps or 6 player maps. Koreans are good at playing the game, but I think better map makers are non korean, alot their maps are not as balanced as non korean map makers, theres a few good map makers that korean but alot them dont even know how make proper custom ramps and bridges to look natural. They dont care on making good maps, their too busy having competitions on whos best player, why think they play 1vs1 and not clan vs clan thats why they prefer 2-4 player maps. modified by king of 8 plr maps | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 06:57 | ||
| "I tired of same old maps showing up at motw, while my breakthrew 6 player maps get left behind." Oh My God. Shut the fuck up. and we don't care about what some random people say about your maps, they're not the ones to judge it. | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 10:26 | ||
| you meant "they are all different"--"their" is the wrong word. MOTW should be for 1v1 maps due to the reasons i cited above. and your maps are only useful as "experimental" "for fun" nonsense, the same situations where people could just as well bring out blizzard maps. and koreans DO make 2v2 maps, better than yours. so shut up :/ and don't act like we should choose a MOTW because it's "fun for FFA, rw, 3v3, 4v4..." | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 15:04 | ||
| To quote Arden: "If somebody makes an outstanding 5+ player map, then by all means, it shall become MOTW." Haven't seen any 5+ map worth of Motw by now. Try to make a "same old" 4 or 2 player map in the quality instead, and you get a spot. Can't be that difficult after it's the same thing ever and ever again, don't you think? | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 15:11 | ||
| If there is a solid 4 player map and a solid 6 player map as a choice for motw, I'd chose the 6 player one. Most of the time it would be more like great 4 player map vs 6 player map with major flaws. So choice isnt hard after all. 1on1-balancing-comments should not influence rating on 6player maps too much. Important is how the map plays in 3on3 _melee_. This whole UMS stuff with top vs bottom really does not belong on this page. So a solid, well-balanced 6 player map could make MOTW in my opinion. But testing would be even harder, because you should test in 3on3 to really know what the map is worth. When do we ever get the chance to do that, and actually have a GG? I don't discriminate 6 player maps, but especially in the area of positional balancing (race balancing disfavoring terran is another issue on many 6 player maps) I don't see professional level on most maps yet. | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 16:42 | ||
| Why does a 6 player map need testing for balanced, when you can plainly see most my maps are as balanced it gonna get for a 6 player map you guys just making excuses. Panschk you mean you cant find a outstanding 6 player map from my submissions, well try look the net goto all starcraft sites you find a better 6 player map, thats not hunters garbage that better then mines, then i'll stop making maps and take all my maps down from here. modified by King of 8 plr Maps | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 20:40 | ||
| I love that last bit... Please do that ;) | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 21:32 | ||
| panschk, i think it would be wrong to choose a 6 player map and only judge it on 3on3. motw and the way we judge and make maps is for 1on1, period. lesser forms of broodwar have lower standards, are lesser known, and played less seriously. therefore, choosing a 6 player map and not judging its value as a 1on1 map would be lowering the standard and having a double standard, an easy backdoor to making a motw that is worse than all existing maps. think if basketball. you have men's, which is the best, and women's, which has lower standards. if a woman wants to play in the real league, she has to really compete with them. the real game in broodwar is 1on1. the motws are 1on1, they are the men pro basketball players. 6+ player maps are women, they aren't as good. if they can't stand up as a 1on1 map, they are a lower class, i don't care how great they are for 3on3 or even 2on2, because 3on3 and 2on2 have _way_ lower standards, are way less examined, etc. | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 23:14 | ||
| and king, some blizzard maps own all yours. some korean ones do too. if it's not a 1on1 map, it should be in the "experimental" category only. _maybe_ we could have a 2on2 category, but anything else is ridiculous. | ||
| 2006, 05, 20 23:16 | ||
| King of 8 plr maps, you just have to accept the fact that you will never see a 5+ player map used competitively. Anything higher than 4 players is just played on for "a fun game" and will most likely be played very little. There are those rare occasions where a player will say: "Hey, I think we should have a big 8 player math, just for fun". Then afterwards, they will never do it again and they will go back on PGT and shoot for B+. Your maps are decent, but 2, 3, and 4 player maps are the standard for BW, and that will never change. What your asking the BW comunity to do is change the face of online play forever. This is like telling everybody of Diablo II to stop rushing and play the game the way it was intended. Are you kidding me? That will never stop, and people will also never stop using 2, 3, 4 and player maps ONLY in professional tournaments and organized online play. End of story. I respect your efforts, I really do, but your asking too much of the BW community. | ||
| 2006, 05, 21 01:54 | ||
| math = match*** | ||
| 2006, 05, 21 01:56 | ||
| well, a 5 player or 6 is _possible_ for 1v1, but it's extra challenge, that's all. 5 player maps could be really cool, but they should take at least 3x as long to make. and could broodwar use some organized form besides 1v1? they try to give us 2v2, and it's at a very low level, typically it's newbie bashing... it's so bad that we really don't need any more maps for it, we don't even need any korean maps for 2v2. we could stick to just 1v1 maps for it. not all of them, but many. and 3v3? people don't like 3v3 broodwar. FFA? people don't like that either. broodwar is at its best in 1v1. i think good 2v2 is possible, don't get me wrong, but it's not up to par right now and if it was we would choose tons of existing 2v2 and 1v1 and blizzard maps over 8 plyr's. | ||
| 2006, 05, 21 02:56 | ||
| So why do other sites that carry pro maps give spotlite to good maps that are 8 players. I can name few off my hand now and list sites for you guys, the point is if map is good and has something other maps dont it should be showcased. My maps all been tested the game play and balance is great on some. Allied forces been tested for 2 half years and is good looking map and has something new to 8 player map. judging map by what you see in .jpg dont tell whole story. | ||
| 2006, 05, 21 03:34 | ||
| king, you're a good mapmaker. But do you know how many good maps are on this site that don't get showcased? Almost every week for MotW there's a hard decision between 2-3 maps, but only the MotW wins. And honestly, balance really can't be tested much by us. Gameplay can, becuase that includes obvious flaws etc. But real balance testing comes after hundreds of games. Real game testing comes after a season of PGT. Notice how when Sattarchasm was MotS at PGT, we found out it was Z>P. So to say that gameplay and balance are great is an assumption. But you say that you're good at 2 and 4 player maps, I'd really like to see it, because I believe you. I know I for sure couldn't make the 8 player maps you do, but sorry, there just isn't as much interest in the community for it right now. | ||
| 2006, 05, 21 04:23 | ||
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