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ProTosS4EveR	I am actually making a (4)version of (2)Shine with desert tileset, hope he will like it. -_-
2007, 08, 09 18:15
flothefreak	basically what i think about us, iccup and retard admin: we have the chance to sell some maps to the community easily and massively - but we're seling us, our site and our skill FAR below value. i dont think we should make ourselves whores and make a map for this stupid fucker- we should act seriously and like professionals: we show them the best maps, TELL him those ARE great and if he refuses, it is his loss, not ours. we could also gather professional statements (of well known gamers like mireille) on those maps to fortify our point. either he takes the best, or he doesnt get anything because we sell only the best products.
2007, 08, 09 20:18
Crackling	bad idea. i wanna be his whore :>
2007, 08, 09 20:51
ProTosS4EveR	Bah if he does not want, it will be for my mapping skills, it will be my 1st (4) map. xD
2007, 08, 09 21:09
Crackling	look my salomon map :D
2007, 08, 09 21:24
Nightmarjoo	Flo, fine, let's try it your way then. Give me a list of the best maps at bwm. I'll tell you if I think any of those are actually decent. Chances are, I won't.
2007, 08, 09 23:12
Nightmarjoo	I considered scout for the team, but I thought he was too inactive to be part of the team.
2007, 08, 09 23:13
ScoutWBF	You're cruel Joel T_T
2007, 08, 10 02:10
NastyMarine	mite as well just remake python -_____-
2007, 08, 10 03:49
Nightmarjoo	Can't, no inverted ramps LOL
2007, 08, 10 11:46
Crackling	maybe he was meaning not inverted ramps but wide ramps? like x2 x3 etc.
2007, 08, 10 12:18
flothefreak	Nightmarjoo "Flo, fine, let's try it your way then. Give me a list of the best maps at bwm. I'll tell you if I think any of those are actually decent. Chances are, I won't." just tell me a map (pro, korean, bwmn) that is actually decent in your eyes. chances are, there is no perfect map, and you can always find flaws if you are looking for them. mostly because you can always turn map aspects into a flaw. modified by flothefreak
2007, 08, 10 19:14
Nightmarjoo	Of course there is no perfect map. There are faults in virtually every map, but more flaws in some than in others.
2007, 08, 10 21:57
NastyMarine	panschk got it right when he said gameplay > balance in the end. Your looking for new ways for players to play - thusly the map dictates play styles etc and thats why you shouldnt focus too greatly on ultimate balance. its not like its impossible, but you'd come out with the same map over and over again. This is something joel doesnt understand and shows in many of his maps :o No disrespect to Joel but he is forgetting that.
2007, 08, 11 07:35
Nightmarjoo	Well since the team hasn't gotten together at all doesn't look like we're gonna get anything done =/
2007, 08, 12 01:01
Testbug	i would like to work :)
2007, 08, 12 02:39
Nightmarjoo	"panschk got it right when he said gameplay > balance in the end" lol? since when is balance not part of the gameplay?
2007, 08, 16 19:00
NastyMarine	I'm sure the korean mappers for Hitchhiker or Arkinoid etc was looking for gameplay > balance when finalizing it. No doubt did they accomodate for standard balance but creating a new atmosphere for players is what the best approach is for new maps (which is ultimately new gameplay). If you go for balance in every approach and aspect for maps then you will get the same map again and again and again. maybe i should reword gameplay as "innovative gameplay"
2007, 08, 16 19:05
flothefreak	it is. what panschk tries to say is that a map with (adopted) statistices of 45%-55% in each MU but new innovative style and good flow is better than a perfectly balanced map which doesnt offer anything strategical (i.e. luna).
2007, 08, 16 19:05
Crackling	since we got monty hall, rh3 and fastest possible map.
2007, 08, 16 19:06
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